New Table Design

[Rafe]

As I said I'm done with this topic as it's clearly not going anywhere, but you're making the absolute worst faith interpretation of my posts and I'm going to address that, and I will do my best to avoid making any new points so we can stop here.

Firstly, my motivation isn't for my own ego or so I can beat more records, it's because I want to get more people into this and have a more active community. Part of that is accessibility to newcomers, part of that is increasing the ways we compete. I believe the minutes focus is an issue for both of those. You don't have to agree with me, or care about trying to grow the community, but at least stop assuming I'm some ego-maniac who wants to wipe everything clean so I can take it myself.

if people look at the minutes/age table and think "that can't be beaten" then that's their own fault , why are you taking issue with the few people who actually DO look at it and think "fuck it i'm gonna try anyway" . as i've already said , people like yourself year after year say that the minutes table is capped yet low and behold the minutes get beaten , wowww funny that ? it's almost like they sit there for years because people don't have the capacity or effort to try something new

read this short thread : viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1748

after reading and noticing even *that* record itself was beaten on the minute/age table you will see how silly your argument is ; people said every trick was done , no one will ever look into the discussion again , most minutes are capped bla bla bla .. it was all bullshit wasn't it ?

I never said anything about this, I have broken records that I looked at and couldn't see how to improve because I decided to fuck around and see what I could do. This is extremely common in any game that people think "how can we beat this" and then some new trick is discovered. I am merely looking to promote a mentality of approaching records without the primary focus being on minute or /age, and my personal view is that the current minutes table discourages that. I'm not saying that everything is capped and thus we can only compete on seconds.

breaking an age barrier isn't low effort , idk why you keep pushing this narrative
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its not "anti-competetive" to break a minutes barrier that no one else was able to do for years and be rewarded for it

I never said the minute barrier is low effort, but there ARE posts where breaking it was, and it's "easy" to take the strategy they used and beat it seconds based. That's fine, it's up to you if you want to post it, and actually I think it is healthy to post it like that, but again the focus on /age detracts from peoples motivation to actually go and improve it. A tie doesn't feel as good as being first, why put in the effort to beat something by a significant seconds margin and then its still recorded as a tie?

; . you are coping so fucking bad its unreal .. are you mad this speedrunning community has a history and it's not a complete fresh slate for your ego to fill ?

Please tell me where you got this from my post, I simply didn't say this nor is it true.

why do your friends all think like we do regarding /age

Because it's the culture that has been cultivated on this site over the last 10 years

why are you trying to lessen other peoples achievements ?

I'm not. I'm already looking at building a leaderboard that we can use to view ALL past records, not just the current arbitrary minute ties once seconds get involved.

i've gone back and forth in real competition here ; scraping seconds on the same mission over and over again to keep my tag on the seconds table and it's fucking depressing .
once it gets down to actually competing for 1 second it all just becomes RNG anyway , you're literally just hoping for good mob placements and HSR every run .. for hundreds if not thousands of runs .. how tf is that a show of skill or who is the best ?

Not every record has to be a statement of skill or who is the best, I don't think I'm a better FoW player than the SenT guys we were competing against because we were first to do the 4 min. I want to see records pushed, whether thats pushing RNG, skill or tactics to the max, and as much as I like to see my record in first, I would find it equally fulfilling to say I was part of the push to the "max", like what happened with Borlis Pass.

it becomes a test of patience at that point (and sacrificing real money because i don't bot and time with my family i have responsibilities for) . if you don't understand that ; then thats a you issue

I'm sorry you don't enjoy competing on seconds and you don't have time to bot, but I don't think that your personal situation is an argument against removing the minute focus. I agree it's not ideal that we have to burn through consumables for records but that is the reality of competing in GW records.

infact you don't understand because no one has ever actually honestly competed with you for a seconds record here , you have 0 understanding of what that is even like because this community is DEAD and no one is actually COMPETING for "seconds" ; that's why rightly or wrongfully they are seen as omegacringe whether or not you want to fantasize otherwise

You are making an big statement here, I have competed for records, I have pushed seconds, I am a competitive person, of course I understand what it's like to compete. Acting like I can't have an opinion or a say on it is incredible, and saying the community is dead and no one competes whilst I try to make a change that might help address that is insane logic

if you want to post a seconds record there is nothing stopping you . if your friends won't join you find some who will . i managed to with my ragtag guild for our dungeon and mission ties ? lliterally wtf is the problem

Except I'm trying to communicate to you that there is, but you clearly aren't trying to understand my point of view, so let's stop having this conversation.

[BackTwoBaySix]

Some absolute TRUTH NUKES being dropped

[Jvphd]

New table looks nice, better organized and easier to read.
Maybe add a hyperlink in the name of the area to show greater detail of the areas records?
Such as like a history of previous records or maybe any threads made with that name in the subject/title?

I'm no web designer so idk if this is possible. If not disregard me :3 hihi

I appreciate all the work you've done as a mod strongy and you continue to show you were a good choice for the community as a whole.

[rat]

minutes based tables are pointless

[BackTwoBaySix]

If you have less than 15 posts on gwscr then your opinion doesn't matter and you should shut the fuck up

TRUTH NUKE

[Flo]

Hi