Guild Wars Speed Clear Records

Hi all,

Half a repost from the Mission Records chat, but I know a lot of people that may be interested in Elite Areas but not Missions so opening the chat here

I am proposing a tweak to the tables, in an effort to simplify and make TAS/Pure/Seconds/Minutes more comparable. Feedback is welcome.

As part of this change, I am tentatively proposing an option to move relevant single area records from "Other" to here. This is to perhaps stimulate some different runs for people given this thread is generally more "desirable" than being in the other category.

The Single Area records will be limited to DoA areas (as defined by current rules, and no individual quests), UW complete quests and FoW complete quests. This is a similar design to the current Sorrow's Furnace approach which has runs for the individual parts.

I am by no means completely sold on this idea - just something I am opening up to the community for discussion

Elite Area Record Table

Objective	Task	Party	[TAS]	[TAS]	[PURE]	[PURE]
		Size	Minutes	Seconds	Minutes	Seconds
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Domain of Anguish
	Full Run
		8	13min [IT]	13:47 [IT]	16min [-]	16:36 [-]
		7	15min [IT] [low]	15:27 [low]
		6	17min [IT]	17:44 [IT]
		5	21min [IT]	21:30 [IT]
		4	22min [-]	22:57 [-]
		3	25min [Loa]	25:55 [Loa]
		2	29min [-] [-][/b]	29:30 [-]	31min [-]	31:24 [-]
		1	45min [SdR]	45:50 [SdR]	53min [Loa]	53:08 [Loa]
	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
	Mallyx
		3	19min [Loa]	19:50 [Loa]
		1	47min [Aria]	47:02 [Aria]
	Foundry
		6	3min [IT]	3:58 [IT]
		2	8min [IT]	8:34 [IT]
		1	26min [Loa]	26:37 [Loa]
	City
		2	4min [-]	4:59 [-]
		1	8min [Loa]	8:38 [Loa]
	Veil
		8	4min [IT]	4:54 [IT]
		3	9min [-]	9:40 [-]
		2	14min [IT]	14:54 [IT]
		1	31min [pEon]	31:38 [pEon]	33min [pEon]	33:40 [pEon]
	Gloom
		3	5min [Loa]	5:25 [Loa]
		2	5min [mnka] [-]	5:41 [-]	6min [Loa]	6:55 [Loa]
		1	7min [IT]	7:53 [IT]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
The Underworld
	Full Run
		8	10min [Loco]	10:52 [Loco]
		7	11min [-]	11:56 [-]
		6	12min [Loco]	12:59 [Loco]
		5	15min [-]	15:44 [-]
		4	17min [Loco]	17:56 [Loco]
		3	22min [ff]	22:40 [ff]
		2	31min [SdR]	31:59 [SdR]	65min [IT]	1:05:21 [IT]
		1	61min [SdR]	1:01:46 [SdR]	77min [Aria]	1:17:01 [Aria]
	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
	Chamber
		1	0min [-] [ff]	0:50 [ff]
	Restore
		3	5min [Loco]	5:46 [Loco]
		2	8min [Loco]	8:37 [Loco]
		1	16min [SdR]	16:51 [SdR]
	Escort
	UWG
		4	1min [Loco]	1:55 [Loco]
		2	2min [Loco]	2:54 [Loco]
		1	4min [Aria]	4:52 [Aria]
	Vale
	Wastes
		4	3min [-]	3:45 [-]
		2	4min [-]	4:36 [-]
		1	5min [SdR]	5:55 [SdR]
	Pits
	Planes
	Mountains
	Pools
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Fissure of Woe
	Full Run
		8	4min [Loco]	4:59 [Loco]
		6			5min [SenT]	5:56 [SenT]
		5			6min [SenT]	6:54 [SenT]
		4			7min [SenT]	7:57 [SenT]
		3			9min [SenT]	9:54 [SenT]
		2			13min [SenT]	13:59 [SenT]
		1			33min [Aria]	33:52 [Aria]
	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
	ToC
		1	1min [Loco]	1:31 [Loco]	1min [SenT]	1:34 [SenT]
	Wailing Lord
	Griffons
		5		3:48 [-]
		4	3min [-]	3:51 [-]
		1	8min [Loco]	8:34 [Loco]
	Defend
	Forge
	Menzies
		1	2min [-]	2:57 [-]
	Restore
	Khobay
	ToS
	Burning
		1	2min [-]	2:26 [-]
	Hunt
		8	1min [Loco]	1:58 [Loco]
		4	2min [Loco]	2:55 [Loco]
		1	8min [-]	8:51 [-]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
The Deep
		12	4min [Fett]	4:54 [Fett]
		5	5min [Loco]	5:49 [Loco]
		4	6min [Loco]	6:55 [Loco]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Urgoz's Warren
		11		4:54 [亡囗囗大]
		8			4min [Loco]	4:57 [Loco]
		7	4min [亡囗囗大]	4:58 [亡囗囗大]
		4	5min [亡囗囗大]	5:40 [亡囗囗大]
		3	6min [亡囗囗大]	6:40 [亡囗囗大]
		2	7min [Y트트T]	7:59 [Y트트T]	8min [Y트트T]	8:40 [Y트트T]
		1	9min [Y트트T]	9:53 [Y트트T]	10min [SdR]	10:56 [SdR]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
ToPK
		4	9min [-]	11:51 [-]
		1	15min [kys] [rad쏘]	16:27 [rad쏘]	17min [kys]	19:41 [kys]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Sorrow's Furnace
	Full Run
	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
	Kilroy Stonekin
		2	4min [kys]	5:42 [kys]
		1	8min [kys]	8:45 [kys]
	Summit Slaves
		2	1min [Kids]	1:56 [Kids]
		1	2min [kys]	2:59 [kys]
	Unspeakable, Unknowable
		2	7min [kys]	7:53 [kys]
		1	14min [kys]	14:05 [kys]
	Noble Intentions
		2	9min [kys]	9:58 [kys]
		1	12min [kys]	12:28 [kys]
	The Forge Heart
		2	4min [kys]	4:52 [kys]
		1	6min [kys]	6:43 [kys]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Legacy
	UW Pre Dhuum
		8	7min [-]	7:59 [-]
		2	28min [Zraw]	28:59 [Zraw]
		1	54min [Zraw]	54:59 [Zraw]
	The Deep
		3	8min [-]	8:49 [-]
		2	11min [Zraw]	11:11 [Zraw]
		1	25min [Zraw]	25:59 [pRma]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------

remove minutes

non-jokes aside, I like having the individual records in here but I think it should be in a separate table to the full area tables
Already comparing the UW/Fow vs Urgoz/deep etc, having the full records in bold on UW/FoW makes it look like the full records in Urgoz/Deep aren't the equivalent for those areas.

So I would propose keeping all the full records in the main table "Elite Area Full Clear Records", and then have the individual quests as in a separate post (in the same thread) or just underneath in the same one, "Elite Area Quest/Sub Area clears"

I prefer the same post because its really not long enough to justify splitting into a different thread tbh. Tester below.
I tried making Urgoz/Deep etc bold in the table above, but I didnt like that at all.

Elite Area Records - Full Runs

Objective	Task	Party	[TAS]	[TAS]	[PURE]	[PURE]
		Size	Minutes	Seconds	Minutes	Seconds
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Domain of Anguish
		8	13min [IT]	13:47 [IT]	16min [-]	16:36 [-]
		7	15min [IT] [low]	15:27 [low]
		6	17min [IT]	17:44 [IT]
		5	21min [IT]	21:30 [IT]
		4	22min [-]	22:57 [-]
		3	25min [Loa]	25:55 [Loa]
		2	29min [-] [-]	29:30 [-]	31min [-]	31:24 [-]
		1	45min [SdR]	45:50 [SdR]	53min [Loa]	53:08 [Loa]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
The Underworld
		8	10min [Loco]	10:52 [Loco]
		7	11min [-]	11:56 [-]
		6	12min [Loco]	12:59 [Loco]
		5	15min [-]	15:44 [-]
		4	17min [Loco]	17:56 [Loco]
		3	22min [ff]	22:40 [ff]
		2	31min [SdR]	31:59 [SdR]	65min [IT]	1:05:21 [IT]
		1	61min [SdR]	1:01:46 [SdR]	77min [Aria]	1:17:01 [Aria]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Fissure of Woe
		8	4min [Loco]	4:59 [Loco]
		6			5min [SenT]	5:56 [SenT]
		5			6min [SenT]	6:54 [SenT]
		4			7min [SenT]	7:57 [SenT]
		3			9min [SenT]	9:54 [SenT]
		2			13min [SenT]	13:59 [SenT]
		1			33min [Aria]	33:52 [Aria]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
The Deep
		12	4min [Fett]	4:54 [Fett]
		5	5min [Loco]	5:49 [Loco]
		4	6min [Loco]	6:55 [Loco]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Urgoz's Warren
		11		4:54 [亡囗囗大]
		8			4min [Loco]	4:57 [Loco]
		7	4min [亡囗囗大]	4:58 [亡囗囗大]
		4	5min [亡囗囗大]	5:40 [亡囗囗大]
		3	6min [亡囗囗大]	6:40 [亡囗囗大]
		2	7min [Y트트T]	7:59 [Y트트T]	8min [Y트트T]	8:40 [Y트트T]
		1	9min [Y트트T]	9:53 [Y트트T]	10min [SdR]	10:56 [SdR]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
ToPK
		4	9min [-]	11:51 [-]
		1	15min [kys] [rad쏘]	16:27 [rad쏘]	17min [kys]	19:41 [kys]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Sorrow's Furnace
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Legacy
	UW Pre Dhuum
		8	7min [-]	7:59 [-]
		2	28min [Zraw]	28:59 [Zraw]
		1	54min [Zraw]	54:59 [Zraw]
	The Deep
		3	8min [-]	8:49 [-]
		2	11min [Zraw]	11:11 [Zraw]
		1	25min [Zraw]	25:59 [pRma]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------

Elite Area Records - Single Areas

Objective	Task	Party	[TAS]	[TAS]	[PURE]	[PURE]
		Size	Minutes	Seconds	Minutes	Seconds
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Domain of Anguish
	Mallyx
		3	19min [Loa]	19:50 [Loa]
		1	47min [Aria]	47:02 [Aria]
	Foundry
		6	3min [IT]	3:58 [IT]
		2	8min [IT]	8:34 [IT]
		1	26min [Loa]	26:37 [Loa]
	City
		2	4min [-]	4:59 [-]
		1	8min [Loa]	8:38 [Loa]
	Veil
		8	4min [IT]	4:54 [IT]
		3	9min [-]	9:40 [-]
		2	14min [IT]	14:54 [IT]
		1	31min [pEon]	31:38 [pEon]	33min [pEon]	33:40 [pEon]
	Gloom
		3	5min [Loa]	5:25 [Loa]
		2	5min [mnka] [-]	5:41 [-]	6min [Loa]	6:55 [Loa]
		1	7min [IT]	7:53 [IT]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
The Underworld
	Chamber
		1	0min [-] [ff]	0:50 [ff]
	Restore
		3	5min [Loco]	5:46 [Loco]
		2	8min [Loco]	8:37 [Loco]
		1	16min [SdR]	16:51 [SdR]
	Escort
	UWG
		4	1min [Loco]	1:55 [Loco]
		2	2min [Loco]	2:54 [Loco]
		1	4min [Aria]	4:52 [Aria]
	Vale
	Wastes
		4	3min [-]	3:45 [-]
		2	4min [-]	4:36 [-]
		1	5min [SdR]	5:55 [SdR]
	Pits
	Planes
	Mountains
	Pools
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Fissure of Woe
	ToC
		1	1min [Loco]	1:31 [Loco]	1min [SenT]	1:34 [SenT]
	Wailing Lord
	Griffons
		5		3:48 [-]
		4	3min [-]	3:51 [-]
		1	8min [Loco]	8:34 [Loco]
	Defend
	Forge
	Menzies
		1	2min [-]	2:57 [-]
	Restore
	Khobay
	ToS
	Burning
		1	2min [-]	2:26 [-]
	Hunt
		8	1min [Loco]	1:58 [Loco]
		4	2min [Loco]	2:55 [Loco]
		1	8min [-]	8:51 [-]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------
Sorrow's Furnace
	Kilroy Stonekin
		2	4min [kys]	5:42 [kys]
		1	8min [kys]	8:45 [kys]
	Summit Slaves
		2	1min [Kids]	1:56 [Kids]
		1	2min [kys]	2:59 [kys]
	Unspeakable, Unknowable
		2	6min [kys]	6:49 [kys]
		1	13min [kys]	13:55 [kys]
	Noble Intentions
		2	9min [kys]	9:58 [kys]
		1	12min [kys]	12:28 [kys]
	The Forge Heart
		2	4min [kys]	4:52 [kys]
		1	6min [kys]	6:43 [kys]
--------------------------------	----------------------------	------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------	-------------------

I like this idea

Yeah think that looks great