14 min Underworld

[Nika]

Keep this record - maybe with a stamp.
I said these words before:
People were quite used to the useage of such things, and didn't see them as a hack. Else they surely wouldn't have published a vid of them performing this

[Sylars]

I don't understand why you are all bitching about toolbox, everybody use it

No.

the same for ghost, it's part of the game and now part of the metagame, do the ghost +eoe trick is a hack ?

No.

everybody know the use of ghosts and now that all the sc players knows each others and what ppl can do why blaming a shortcut of 2s cuz ghost+hos? teh game is dead, it's useless bitching about everything.

No.

[Luke]

Yeah take it down we clearly cheated our way to this 14, if it wasnt for hydro jumping off ghosts on his way back from vale we would be still pushing for 14 as far as im concerned

[Double Derv Dare]

Yeah take it down we clearly cheated our way to this 14, if it wasnt for hydro jumping off ghosts on his way back from vale we would be still pushing for 14 as far as im concerned

The only reasons this discussion is even on the table is because no overall time was saved via the ghosts, and how widely accepted the run has been accepted for months. Hydro was shooting for an 8 minute, which wound up being significantly faster than the other terras. If I could even remotely argue that time might have actually been saved here, this record would already be removed, and this discussion would not be happening.

[Luke]

There were no rules back then concerning this and so this record should remain untouched

[Sylars]

So in one topic you're all against hacks and in the other you want them to be approved?

[Hydro]

If I take down the video, there 'technically' wouldn't be any proof. Would this discussion end?

On a serious note, whether the record gets taken down or not, I personally don't care. The community knows that it had little to no impact on the run as a whole. We would've gotten it anyways that run. Toolbox haters might not approve, but fact remains that I had nearly a full minute of play around time to get my job done in time. Like James pointed out, I was shooting for an 8 min LT.

So take it down or not. Everyone knows this team got it first in this meta, whether it's 'officially legit' or not.

[Deadly Shadow Char]

Reject this record now please.. Hydro sucks and he hacks and he sucks.

/rejected

[Hydro]

Says the guy with the macros.

[Double Derv Dare]

Andrew's computer can't even run a fucking GiTB popper to trigger soulreaping.