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Re: Removing [TAS] and [pure] / please flame inside
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:18 am
by Vivec
Wrong. TAS (Tool Assisted Speedruns) are a fairly common thing. Which do way more than is currently even possible in GW. So IMO that's still a valid category. Also the point still stands that the general record activity in the last month was basically zero, so removing the categories again because there was no activity there is a bit premature. And as has been stated before - it doesn't cost anything to have those categories.
Re: Removing [TAS] and [pure] / please flame inside
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:20 am
by Jang
With every TB update the rules get extended and adjusted. Currently the TB is only providing small advantages for its users but the differences are getting bigger. In my opinion we should keep them as small as possible and should not allow every change for the sake of 'better looks' or laziness.
Furthermore I wasn't even aware that people still gave a fuck about TAS and Pure records, but judged by the amount of people who are still doing speedruns it's probably better to remove them as being able to go for a the same record under 3 different rulesets only decreases the competition.
Re: Removing [TAS] and [pure] / please flame inside
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:07 am
by Misty
Furthermore, removing TAS either means perniciously denying Kaspar's record after the fact just because it used coins, or retroactively deciding that coin drop was always acceptable in "standard" runs.
@Marcin: congratulations on your first discussion post since becoming a mod! Please explain 2 things for a slow old man:
1. Why are performance-enhancing drugs prohibited in competitive physical sports, whereas a healthy diet and a good night's sleep are encouraged? I was under the impression this was because the drugs offer an unsustainable temporary boost.
2. How is this applicable to GW?
Re: Removing [TAS] and [pure] / please flame inside
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:29 am
by Marcin
I don't post much here because all I do is voice my opinion and get shit on by the same group of people all the time, anyway I voted for mod cos I was tired of peoples hard work in the past taking ages to be approved with the 2 inactive mods.
However since there was something done about it and that we have more mods now, id happily step down since this site became a joke recently.
Flames aside, Please carry on with this discussion.
Re: Removing [TAS] and [pure] / please flame inside
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:43 pm
by Ether
Marcin wrote:I don't post much here because all I do is voice my opinion and get shit on by the same group of people all the time.
LOL, and what do you do?
Marcin wrote: Yeah, brb pming FBGMs team for some movement macro cheats they use for the glitch spot which is really hard
Marcin wrote: its just a fbgm thing to tie records
Marcin wrote: I'd reccomend joining [DS] Livia if you wanna join the toolbox crying squad
..... I see this as a desperate attempt to try get a record you just can't do without the help of cheats
Marcin wrote:And thats impressive 4men record, still faster than any DS doa casual
fuckin sad lmao
anyways i think keeping the categories does no harm. people may eventually find some new gamebreaking glitch that we will all argue over again and have to put it under TAS.
Re: Removing [TAS] and [pure] / please flame inside
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:55 am
by Cruz
Obviously they're going to be low-activity categories. But where's the harm in keeping them?
I think there is interest in these categories, but something like a TAS is not cooked up in an afternoon. As has been said already, a sizeable part of the community is currently busy pursuing other records.
Re: Removing [TAS] and [pure] / please flame inside
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:44 am
by Befi
add normal mode records for more discussions!
you guys are making everything so complicated...
Re: Removing [TAS] and [pure] / please flame inside
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:19 am
by Nina Fow Addict
TAS should be able to do ik in mostly many others game ive speedrunned there is a TAS categorie so shouldnt be a problem that we know the record is doing by a bot who do all perfect to see the most valuable time of an area. I rather have this than a guy who cheat in a real reccord and say he have doing it by his own hand skills