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Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:32 am
by jon comgree
how gwscr is currently seen by 5 people

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Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:29 am
by Rocks4Free
How gwscr is currently seen by cheat-junkies:

Klick, if u like toolbox

Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:37 am
by jon comgree
^ love your name

Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:56 pm
by icryabouttoolbox
Has Kha is the worst kind of guy. I honestly believe he is the devil himself, creating toolbox only to destroy guild wars 1 all together. We've seen things like this before, and he's most comparable to Hitler himself. Auto pop pcons? Really? It's impossible to pop pcons without this tool. You know old records? They didn't even use pcons at all, but you're all so shit. Seeing your time and seconds in a pm? That of course makes your run 5 mins faster. You're all dirty hackers who can't get records without it, I bet toolbox has a hack to make all the fow/doa/uw chests spawn and that's how all you idiots got your records. I say a mod invites every person of the team to their house and he must watch each player to make sure they don't use toolbox or anything you other than guild wars itself, no autoclicking or macros.

Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:03 pm
by Hydro
That's really constructive, really.

Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:05 pm
by Nika
Lololol

Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:15 pm
by Cheese
icryabouttoolbox wrote:Has Kha is the worst kind of guy. I honestly believe he is the devil himself, creating toolbox only to destroy guild wars 1 all together. We've seen things like this before, and he's most comparable to Hitler himself. Auto pop pcons? Really? It's impossible to pop pcons without this tool. You know old records? They didn't even use pcons at all, but you're all so shit. Seeing your time and seconds in a pm? That of course makes your run 5 mins faster. You're all dirty hackers who can't get records without it, I bet toolbox has a hack to make all the fow/doa/uw chests spawn and that's how all you idiots got your records. I say a mod invites every person of the team to their house and he must watch each player to make sure they don't use toolbox or anything you other than guild wars itself, no autoclicking or macros.
This is the stupidest shit I've read in my life. By far. Please do as all a favor and quit life.

Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:14 am
by Libra
You want a solution? Lol you should first explain a solution to what: in fact, 3/4 of the people here didn't really understand what the problem was. You only talk about your precious stupid toolbox and you come crying about your records...

So what's the problem. The problem is to draw a line between what is accepted and what is not.

Let's talk about the toolbox. The toolbox allows to automatically activate the UW quests or teleport to a ghost among other things. Toolbox or no toolbox this doesn't belong on gwscr. We shouldn't even discuss it. Why? Because allowing this kind of things is like allowing everything. For instance, the attribute hack is still possible, or else validate quests without even doing them is indeed possible (it shouldn't be limited to dialog ID). There are other ways to "cheat" and this doesn't stop with the toolbox or mike's toolbox. Anyone can create a toolbox, or even something quite more advanced if you know your stuff.

Recently we (the pRma), have found a way to gain 30s to 1min in DoA with a third party software. I would have liked to know how the fbgm would have reacted if we had used it for our 20 min (or 19).
What's the difference with the ghost? None.
The common point? Third party program.

I now hope that you understand what real the problem is. The auto Pcons is one thing, but the ghost teleport or the auto quest activation is another. Of course I'm against the auto Pcons, but it is up to us to draw the line not to cross.

To be sure that no one violates the rules, we do not have any choice but to ask for a maximum of videos. Otherwise being invited by a moderator seems to be a good idea.

btw jon comgree unistall ty

Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:20 am
by Cookie
I agree with Libra, those are basically my thoughts that I didn't care to write down because lazy

Re: So let's find a Solution.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:03 am
by Nika
Libra, i very well understood that, and that's why i brought up the topic.
Forcing everyone into recording videos seems to be bad idea to me, so as i already pointed out rewarding these with things that could be seen as "allowed" or atleat not giving a real advantage (poping pcons) would motivate people to get into recording and establish it this way.

On another note: joncom #1.