Tomb of the Primeval Kings // Sorrow's Furnace // The Ebony Citadel of Mallyx
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:32 am
Hi,
this thread is to discuss the addition of multiple elite areas to the record tables.
Those 3 elite areas are:
1) Tomb of the Primeval Kings
2) Sorrow's Furnace
3) The Ebony Citadel of Mallyx
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Before I continue, there is only 1 downside to additional areas and categories - clutter. The elite area records subforum is the most prestigious one and the one that probably sparks the highest initial interest in the forum as a whole. Therefore, having additional records that nobody really cares about would distract from other, (to many people) more interesting content. This was already brought up when mission, vanquish and other records were implemented, but since this is now having an effect on the elite areas subforum I figured we should talk about this openly.
Also, please note that every record whatsoever can currently be posted to the other records subforum. So even if people dont want to see these additional areas in the main elite areas subforum, there definitely is a place for them.
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Now, in detail:
1) Tomb of the Primeval Kings
This area consists of 4 consecutive levels. On all levels, all (except some unspawned) enemies have to be killed for a timer to start to get you either into the next level or out of the area (4th level). Enemies have the monster skill fingers of chaos and multiple rupts.
One fear would be that the content is too trivial, since pretty much everything can be cleared by a VoS dervish supported by a spellbreaker monk. But then, who are we to judge the complexity of an area.
Level 4 could be considered done either when the level is cleared completely or when the final bossgroup containing 3 "The Darkness" is killed and the first allied "Lost Soul" spawns. I personally would prefer that 2nd option, just because vanquishing the last area is pointless since the reward is tied to killing the bosses. There are parallels to Jadoth/City in DoA here, but it's a little different.
Timing would be minute based and timed the same as every other multi-level area (for example dungeons).
2) Sorrow's Furnace
The dificulty here is timing the duration of the run. Imo, the only real option is to get a /age before leaving deldrimor warcamp and doing the whole run with all required quests without ever entering an outpost in between. The win condition would be the completion of the quest "The Forge Heart", after which you ld need another /age. You ld start a fresh run with no active quest related to Sorrows Furnace. Individual quests could be posted to the other records subforum, just like UW quests or DoA areas. It's decently complex and what people might consider the "real" elite area of prophecies. Downside of timing it like this would be tedious runs to quest NPCs in Grenth's Footprint.
3) The Ebony Citadel of Mallyx
Pretty self explanatory. It's decently complex. Timing would be minute based upon Mallyx' death.
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So, feel free to share your thoughts about anything I just mentioned and especially what you think about those areas being listed in the elite area subforum.
Please share your opinion within the next week. If the feedback is really contrary, we ll figure out how to come to a solution.
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Possible discussion points:
Should these areas be added to the elite area subforum or somewhere else? Please consider this for each area individually.
How should the timing be handled? ToPK/Sorrow's Furnace
this thread is to discuss the addition of multiple elite areas to the record tables.
Those 3 elite areas are:
1) Tomb of the Primeval Kings
2) Sorrow's Furnace
3) The Ebony Citadel of Mallyx
-----------------------
Before I continue, there is only 1 downside to additional areas and categories - clutter. The elite area records subforum is the most prestigious one and the one that probably sparks the highest initial interest in the forum as a whole. Therefore, having additional records that nobody really cares about would distract from other, (to many people) more interesting content. This was already brought up when mission, vanquish and other records were implemented, but since this is now having an effect on the elite areas subforum I figured we should talk about this openly.
Also, please note that every record whatsoever can currently be posted to the other records subforum. So even if people dont want to see these additional areas in the main elite areas subforum, there definitely is a place for them.
-----------------------
Now, in detail:
1) Tomb of the Primeval Kings
This area consists of 4 consecutive levels. On all levels, all (except some unspawned) enemies have to be killed for a timer to start to get you either into the next level or out of the area (4th level). Enemies have the monster skill fingers of chaos and multiple rupts.
One fear would be that the content is too trivial, since pretty much everything can be cleared by a VoS dervish supported by a spellbreaker monk. But then, who are we to judge the complexity of an area.
Level 4 could be considered done either when the level is cleared completely or when the final bossgroup containing 3 "The Darkness" is killed and the first allied "Lost Soul" spawns. I personally would prefer that 2nd option, just because vanquishing the last area is pointless since the reward is tied to killing the bosses. There are parallels to Jadoth/City in DoA here, but it's a little different.
Timing would be minute based and timed the same as every other multi-level area (for example dungeons).
2) Sorrow's Furnace
The dificulty here is timing the duration of the run. Imo, the only real option is to get a /age before leaving deldrimor warcamp and doing the whole run with all required quests without ever entering an outpost in between. The win condition would be the completion of the quest "The Forge Heart", after which you ld need another /age. You ld start a fresh run with no active quest related to Sorrows Furnace. Individual quests could be posted to the other records subforum, just like UW quests or DoA areas. It's decently complex and what people might consider the "real" elite area of prophecies. Downside of timing it like this would be tedious runs to quest NPCs in Grenth's Footprint.
3) The Ebony Citadel of Mallyx
Pretty self explanatory. It's decently complex. Timing would be minute based upon Mallyx' death.
-----------------------
So, feel free to share your thoughts about anything I just mentioned and especially what you think about those areas being listed in the elite area subforum.
Please share your opinion within the next week. If the feedback is really contrary, we ll figure out how to come to a solution.
-----------------------
Possible discussion points:
Should these areas be added to the elite area subforum or somewhere else? Please consider this for each area individually.
How should the timing be handled? ToPK/Sorrow's Furnace