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Results

Postby Flo » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:29 pm

Aaaaaand the new president of the United States is...: DONALD TRUMP *crowd cheers*

Kidding aside, we re done with the analysis of the vote. The data can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... fbyLFWZC6w
Summary of results is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIp ... wanalytics

The results are the following:
Do you accept the basic population determined by the above mentioned rules to be representative? YES
Do you agree with the way this vote is held and therefore with its results? YES
Should newly discovered glitches and techniques be allowed by default, as long as they are performed without the help of 3rd party tools? YES
Should newly discovered glitches and techniques be allowed by default, even if performed with the help of 3rd party tools? NO
Should the PURE category exist? NOT YET DECIDED (tied exactly 50/50)
Should the STANDARD category exist? YES
Should the TAS category exist? YES
Allow a simple instance timer in PURE records? YES
Allow the modification of any textures (e.g. Texmod/UMod) in STANDARD records? YES
Allow Health Trackers in STANDARD records? YES
Allow Distance Trackers in STANDARD records? YES
Allow Aggro Trackers in STANDARD records? NO
Allow hotkeys that use an item in STANDARD records? YES
Allow Auto-Pcons in STANDARD records? YES
Allow macros to execute multiple keypresses in STANDARD records? NO
Allow bond monitors that only displays bonds in STANDARD records? YES
Allow bond monitors that enable you to cast and drop bonds via the bond monitor in STANDARD records? NO
Allow movement macros in STANDARD records? NO
Allow sending dialogs that could usually not be sent (e.g. UW teleport, fighting snakes in DoA) in STANDARD records? NO
Allow other forms of targeting than the ones given by the game itself in STANDARD records? NO
Allow targeting things that are are untargetable without a tool (e.g. Ghost in the Box) in STANDARD records? NO
Allow ruptbots in STANDARD records? NO
Allow Auto-Rezzscrolls in STANDARD records? NO
Allow Auto-Mobstoppers in STANDARD records? NO
Allow forced slow loads WITHOUT A TOOL in STANDARD records? NO
Allow forced slow loads THAT USE A TOOL in STANDARD records? NO
Allow a tool that shows the area you can and can't walk on in STANDARD records? NO
Allow a tool that shows where your Shadow of Haste was placed / where your Recall target is currently located in STANDARD records? NO
Allow a tool that shows which direction enemies are facing in STANDARD records? NO
Allow a tool that shows the terrain outside of usual compass range in STANDARD records? NO
Allow a tool that lets you mark spots and areas on the minimap that are later visible in STANDARD records? NO
Should we tolerate little deviations from the new ruleset for old records in regard to 3rd party tools when those weren't forbidden (for example distance trackers, toolbox minimap, bond monitor), since the people doing the record at the time did comply with the then current ruleset? YES
[In TAS] Allow Tool-Assisted actions that are in no way possible without a tool? e.g. targeting untargetable NPCs, taking or accepting quests without the requirements, etc. YES
If a PURE category exists, records posted should... (tick every option you're fine with) REQUIRE EVERY SINGLE PARTY MEMBER TO PROVIDE A VIDEO
If a STANDARD category exists, records posted should... (tick every option you're fine with) REQUIRE EVERY SINGLE PARTY MEMBER TO PROVIDE A VIDEO
If a TAS category exists, records posted should... (tick every option you're fine with) NOT YET DECIDED (closer than 5% between "require every single party member to provide a video" and "require one video in total")
How many of the videos above have to be public? (tick every option you're fine with) NOT YET DECIDED (closer than 5% between "more than one mod needs to see" and "all videos have to be public")
Should we tolerate deviations from the new ruleset for old records in regard to videos, since the people doing the record at the time did comply with the then current ruleset? YES

You might ve noticed that two three questions are not yet decided. This is because they re straight up tied or a non-binary vote thats less than <5% apart. There will be a new short vote (for 3 days) for those two three questions, starting this Saturday.

Simultaneously, we ll start writing down the new ruleset.

Now lets enjoy some #drama.

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Re: Results

Postby Ether » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:00 pm

Allow a tool that shows the terrain outside of usual compass range in STANDARD records? NO

So, there are texmods that cut out part of the usual Compass texture, and allows people to see more stuff than before, I'm assuming this is not allowed. or is this relating to stuff OUTSIDE actual compass range?

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Re: Results

Postby Eva is impressed » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:15 pm

Allow Tool-Assisted actions that are in no way possible without a tool? e.g. targeting untargetable NPCs, taking or accepting quests without the requirements, etc. YES
Ok this is fun :D feels quite close to what I picked apart from the video thing

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Re: Results

Postby Misty » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:28 pm

What would the results be if you disregarded any votes that forbid visual improvements (TB minimap, texmod, health tracker etc etc) without also requiring videos from every party member? After all, those votes are self-contradictory, so it doesn't really make sense to count them... otherwise the rules are unenforceable.
Flo wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:56 am
Sadly, Misty is right.

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Re: Results

Postby haskhasin » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:45 pm

Eva is impressed wrote:
Allow Tool-Assisted actions that are in no way possible without a tool? e.g. targeting untargetable NPCs, taking or accepting quests without the requirements, etc. YES
Ok this is fun :D feels quite close to what I picked apart from the video thing
That was about TAS of course, it's wasn't clear in the recap above but it was clear in the poll. I added a note above.

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Re: Results

Postby Misty » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:32 pm

Who wants to share their number so we can see what they voted? Mine is 55.
Flo wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:56 am
Sadly, Misty is right.

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Re: Results

Postby haskhasin » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:41 pm

We had a perfect draw on having PURE records or not. We're going to have PURE records just like at the moment - only for elite areas.

My simple reasoning is this: whatever we do, we make half of the community unhappy, but by removing it we make the half that wants it more unhappy than the other option. Plus, it doesn't cost us anything to keep it, there have been no submission so it's not shaking the community, and removing it yields no gain.

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Re: Results

Postby Eva is impressed » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm

Misty wrote:Who wants to share their number so we can see what they voted? Mine is 55.
Don't think I put a number but it's been long ago. 6/19/2017 5:19:54 looks very close to what I picked so might be that, someone with the info may confirm (doesn't really matter since it reflects my stance). Also
>that guy who's literally Hitler and voted no on pretty much everything
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Re: Results

Postby Nika » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:41 pm

Allow Auto-Pcons in STANDARD records? YES
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Re: Results

Postby Misty » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:46 pm

+1 Nika it looks like a bunch of people voted for what they like instead of what they think is fair, which is what we predicted all along
Flo wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:56 am
Sadly, Misty is right.


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